Warning on diagnosis confusion

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Hi,

I had an upsetting experience due to a mistake by my CNS and thought I’d flag to people here on the off chance that the same thing happens to them - maybe prevent some unneeded distress and anxiety. For context I’m T3 N0 M0 (stage 2) high rectal undergoing neo adjuvant FOLFOXIRI before surgery to give the best long term out comes due to age (38). It’s a fairly rare but lucky position to be in from what I understand. 

Outline of what happens is as follows:

- sat at home on a Tuesday on the middle of chemo cycle 3/6. CNS calls unscheduled. She says there is something she doesn’t understand but needs to tell me. 

- she can see from my paperwork that I’ve been moved from a curative treatment plan to a palliative pathway. This must mean my cancer has spread but she can’t see any detail about that - can I explain. Also my request for my pain management to be moved to community care has been approved. 

- I say I don’t know what she’s taking about and all my letters from consultant and my chemo consent form say “curative” and “neo adjuvant” not palliative. She says her paperwork says palliative so something must’ve changed. I say I haven’t had any extra scans or tests on the intervening period so there’s no way that could be true. She says “good point”. I also flag I haven’t asked for pain management in the community. We go round in circles for a bit. 

- I say I’m getting pretty angry and upset and tell her to hang up and “get your s**t together then call me back”. SH says that’s a good idea and a doctor will call me back. 

- 35mins later she calls me back very apologetically. Says she made a mistake and half explains it’s all an admin error. 

- two weeks later I speak to the consultant who explains. One of my drugs (the IRI bit) should only be funded for more advanced cancer than mine but it’s the best treatment for me so he found a way to get it funded by fudging my diagnosis with the pharmacy teams (he didn’t say exactly this by after 17yrs in the public sector myself I knew 100% what he was saying). Part of his fudge meant ticking the “palliative” box with the pharmacy. I’d called to ask for some mouthwash to manage the pain of a small ulcer (this was the community pain management but) CNS had looked at my pharmacy form to check what else I was on. Seen palliative written there and couldn’t work out why all the other paperwork was different. 

- after the screwup they were all great. CNS very apologetic and reported herself and the error internally. I wrote to the consultant and it’s now in the formal complaint system. 

- last chemo infusion (Friday) I asked to see my prescription and there it is clear as day one the corner “diagnosis: rectal adenocarcinoma. Palliative”. It was so stark to see I had to call my CNS to double check there was no change. But it is very easy to see how she made the mistake. 

My main worry and what I put in the letter was that I feel pretty confident and comfortable dealing with the bureaucracy but many of the patients I see are older and don’t have English as a first language. I can only imagine how much distress the error and call could’ve caused to somebody in a different situation than mine. 

so there you are. Hope you’re all doing ok. 

  • Hi . We’ll I’m absolutely speechless after reading this. Why would she ring you for an explanation rather than asking the consultant? It’s a good job you have your wits about you but it must have been distressing all the same and it doesn’t bear thinking about what effect it might have had on someone less savvy or already dealing with anxiety.

    Hope your blood pressures come back down and the rest of your treatment runs smoothly 

    Take care

    Karen x

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  • I have no idea. The nurse in question has been great apart from that. I could kind of hear she knew she’d made a huge mess as soon as the words were falling out of her mouth. 

    it definitely took a few deep breaths for me to calm down and then I spent the rest of next few days wondering if I was just in denial. Wasn’t until the consultant explained fully that I really calmed down. 

  • Hi 

    Well someone won’t make that mistake again . I can’t believe they clarified that directly with you and not internally . How distressing !

    I get why the oncologist had to do a bit of box ticking to bypass the system . It’s rotten that their clinical judgement is not suffice and they require to go to such lengths but also pretty impressive that they are willing to do that for you .

    Sorry you had to endure that . I have seen similar situations surface when it should be discussed with you consultant not the patient .

    I remember seeing palliative written on my mum’s paperwork and even although it was accurate it’s still hits you between the eyes .

    Onwards for you and I know the rest of your care is great but still a bit unnecessary to say the least .

    Hope your doing ok !

    Court 

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