Hey guys. Has anyone had issues with EBV following an Allo that gave them bad glandular fever resulting in problems with their pituitary gland. I have just got out of hospital again after being extremely poorly and to the point my family didn’t think I was going to make it.
I’ve never even heard of it but it’s caused me so much trouble these past few weeks I’ve literally lost about 2 weeks of my life where I have no memory of anything even my family visiting twice from Leeds and sitting for hours with me in hospital, it’s been truly horrible. My mother-in-law said she thought I’d just given up and would come and make me walk up and down the corridor but again, I don’t remember any of it, nothing. I didn’t eat for 2 weeks and the hospital thought I had developed mental issues with it all and wasn’t coping. It’s only because my wife and a nurse I knew from my own hospital said no it’s definitely not him, there’s issuse with something in the brain that they started to look further otherwise I dread to think where I would have been now because it was really hard to find. I’m now on tablets which have improved it immensely but I’m still not 100% and have to see a endocrinologist going forward.
It’s still not fully clear yet but they believe it’s become swollen due to my fever and was putting pressure on all the nerves which pass through it to the brain.
Of all the things I thought might get me it’s something really strange and random that causes me to be so so poorly and only the determination of my wife and nurse that stopped it almost certainly becoming potentially fatal.
With regards to the EBV I’m still been treated for it but hopefully next test will show it’s almost gone and all my my bumps and lumps have almost gone so that’s all positive. I’m suffering with GvHD in the gut but it’s no too bad yet but it’s causing minor issues but if it’s killing the cancer and the EBV it’s a small price to pay.
Anyway i just thought I would share my latest twist on the journey with you guys.
Regards
Mark
Hi Mark,
one of daughters consultants (there are 3 of them in the 18 bed transplant unit plus clinics) spotted that she was always sleepy in the mornings (not that unusual for a musician really) did a thyroid test anyway and yes, possibly due to her trial with a radioactive isotope, but also maybe due to her radiotherapy, her levels were low. So Levothyroxine it was, she’s on that for life.
I hope you’re not going to need steroids for a long time, they come with their own problems.....but will definitely help you lots in the short term.
by the way, daughters broadcast in aid of Lymphoma Action is on Radio 4 early on 3rd November (7.54am and 9.25pm) will be repeated later and on Thursday 7th at 3.27 pm.
it’s already been recorded of course, and she’s invented a new word, ‘voiceovering’, as yes she’s adding to her music career by doing voiceovers!
Hugs xxx
Moomy
Morning all,
Hope everyone is well and getting ready for the festivities?
I suppose my question is related to the festive season as we are now moving towards works Christmas parties and general get togethers of which I will be attending a few. I had until yesterday not had a drink for nearly 6 months so thought I would try a beer before going on a social event next week. I had two mouthfuls only and within about 5 mins had come out in a big rash all over my face and neck but nowhere else on my body. I could feel my head and face become extremely hot so didn’t drink anymore but was wondering if anyone else experienced anything like this. I felt perfectly fine otherwise and the rash went after about 45 mins but it’s just something I’ve never experienced before.
I am still taking numerous different tablets following my transplant and I am taking additional ones due to the ongoing issues with my pituitary gland but none warn of a reaction with alcohol so not sure what happened. I will speak with my consultant next week as I’m hoping I don’t have to remain tea total over the next few weeks.
Just to give an update whilst I’m here, things are otherwise going ok. The swelling around my pituitary gland has almost completely gone so the Endocrinologist is happy with that. He admitted when I last saw him that he feared the worst for me when he saw me and my first scan when I was extremely ill in Derriford. He added that they know of no other cases of what happened to me happing to anyone else in the UK so they don’t fully understand fully how to treat it. I currently taking different medications for the different parts of the gland which no longer function correctly and have improved dramatically so fingers crossed it continues.
My haematology consultant is happy with everything else and we’ve agreed to have my first scan after the new year so I can just enjoy this Christmas hopefully stress free. All my blood work is good and he has mentioned my appointment been only every two weeks which is good. I am back in the gym, back running and managed 4 miles yesterday which has really pleased me. I start back to work on Monday but just part time until the new year but just looking to getting my brain moving again.
Anyway I’ve waffled enough, it’s time for bacon & eggs. Have a good Sunday everyone.
Regards
Mark
Hi Mark
Sounds like your doing really well despite a rather difficult start. I think I had my transplant around the same time as you so its nice to compare notes. I am very impressed you can run 4 miles, I have not attempted to run yet but am walking 3 miles every day.Been on high dose steroids for three weeks so they have definately given me lots of energy ,getting weaned off them slowly. I did not have a drink for 5 months but I do have a glass of red wine every other night as a treat with no visible side effects.I am still avoiding crowds and will not be going to any Christmas parties ,dont want to end up in hospital over the holiday. Had my 6 month biopsy last week so anxiously waiting for results !
Keep up the good work x
Mark
Hi Mark,
just read this on a different forum, not sure about the rash but alcohol can do strange things! Glad it went but it must have felt rather scary.
Glad otherwise that things seem to be improving. It’s scary that your specialists haven’t come across anything like this in the UK before, gives one the feeling they are treating you a bit blind, but at least it’s all going in the right direction so pioneering work it is! I would guess they are secretly corresponding with fellow specialists world-wide but aren’t telling you!
Hope you don’t have to stay teetotal this Christmas, it might just be the interaction with the sheer numbers of drugs?
Hugs xxx
Moomy
Hi Mark and Mark, sounds like you are both making steady progress and getting through the bumps in the road.
Alcohol? I think it’s most likely your body saying “what is this?” like having that ‘one too much’. The first dram I had was at Christmas after Allo one (6 months) and it was not great and it did take a ‘few’ to get over that taste back.
My advice for living post my two Allo’s was miles apart....... “Just keep an eye open for any infections, not long hugs from the granddaughters and control the places you go”....... and I had no real issues post Allo 1........ but it did not work
The day I was due to leave the SCT Unit after my second Allo - my head consultant came into see us both and was very specific with regards to what I/we had to do......... “This was most likely the final role of the dice for you so don’t jeopardy it by doing silly things”
“For the next year - or until I say different no clubs, pubs, restaurants, supermarkets, coffee shops....... nowhere that you can not control what you are coming in contact with. Your 4 Granddaughters, including your 1 month old granddaughter MUST be kept at arms length for the first 6 months, watch what you eat and don’t drink alcohol” she knew that we were part of the leadership of a large Church in Inverness “I know you have lots of Church friends but you must not go to any event for the first year”
So I did exactly what she said.......still ended up in hospital a few times with Chest Infections, Pneumonia and Sepsis but that was over 4 years now and a lot of it are fuzzy memories.
You are both doing great.
Hi Mark,
I have not had that reaction to alcohol, although to be fair I barely touch the stuff now - I blame it on prednisolone - I don’t want to touch any mind-altering stuff with a barge pole!
But stress-relief is important - so if alcohol and social activities give you that, then I reckon it’s an important part of your recovery - as others have said, just be wary of tiring yourself out or being around infectious people. I had 3 young kids in my house after allo, so I knew I could never stay infection-free, but I guess I was careful when they were obviously ill.
I am with Mike on this, my bet is your body is going, “what the hell is this” and hopefully you’ll be fine the next time you have some. But definitely check it out with the medical teams if it is concerning you.
Cheers
Greg
Hi all,
Well I’m pleased to report I tried a drink again today with my Sunday roast and all went ok. Please don’t think I drink lots each day I certainly don’t and especially not when training, it doesn’t mix well. I just wanted to be able to have one if I wanted.
Mark - The steroids certainly help with the energy levels and I found they also made me eat like a horse. One of the drugs I take for the pituitary gland is a steroid and I’m now officially steroid dependent. I have to wear a medical alert wrist band and carry an emergency shot with me everywhere I go. The steroids I take 3 times a day to replace what my pituitary gland should be producing and without it and as I already know, I would become quite ill again.
Moomy - The Endocrinologist has already said that consultants around the country are keeping an eye on this to see how it develops. They’re keeping a close eye on me and I have to another MRI in a few weeks just to make sure things are still improving and I’m apparently the VIP patient around the hospital at the moment although I’m not sure it’s a good thing.
Mike - It’s strange how different consultants give differing advice. I asked my consultant before starting back in the gym and agreeing to go back to work and he has encouraged me. I already go to restaurants and socialise etc and he has not discouraged me but I appreciate I’m taking a risk each time I do.
Greg - I have three children also so bugs are already flying around our house too. My 8 year old last week was quite poorly with a very nasty cough and the others have both been ill but I have so far managed to escape without having to shut myself in a room away from them. Hopefully my luck continues.
Regards
Mark
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