Looking for some hope as I'm in a very dark place. Little about me, diagnosed in 2020 with ER positive , her 2 negative breast cancer. I had clear lymph nodes, clear margins before starting chemo, thought I had come out the other side. Ever since chemo finished had lower back pain which I kept reporting, when eventually was given a bone scan which was clear. Fast forward to now, I had a recent MRI due to my left leg going numb when sitting for a period of time, I Was expecting to be told i had a pinched nerve, I was advised they had picked up an abnormailty on my spine and hip, which has now been confirmed as secondaries. I cannot believe it or accept it, I have have felt fine, I was in a good place and now I feel as though my world has come crashing down. I can't eat, sleep, I spend most my days googling trying to find success stories of people who are still living years later. I'm still clinging to the hope its wrong(wishful I know) but they can't biopsy due to the location, my organs are clear and bloods are fine. But have to have a further bone scan next week( praying it not found anywhere else). I am 41 and have 2 children my son who has just turned 18 and a daughter turning 8. I have to be around to see them grow up and at least see my daughter through school. I have reached out to a lovely lady on here-Mary who has been living with secondaries for over 10 years which gives me hope, just hoping to hear more people who are living well with this diagnosis. Thanks all, Vicki xx
Hi Vicster2011 and welcome to the Online Community but I am sorry to hear about your diagnoses.
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Good evening Vicki.
I hope you don't mind me messaging you. I was diagnosed just as lockdown hit in 2020, the worst time, although anytimes a bad time. I have never joined this forum as I feel quite a positive person but as with us all we have our wobbles. We wouldn't be normal if we didn't. I've just started a new treatment and it's causing a few problems but I'm not letting it get to me, most of the time. I've got a daughter who is planning a wedding and I'm determined to be there! We've all googled :) I think the key is take each day live it to the full... I'm sure I don't need to tell you that.
I too have a little in my hip but my bloods ok and organs free. I've just had a scan to check how things are going, the waiting for results is the worst. This information might not have helped but hope it has given you a positive vibe.
Here to listen.
Gail xx
Hi Gail Adria navigating the journey can be challenging. I do see that you have already joined our supportive Breast cancer support group. This is a safe place to talk with people who have walk the same journey, a safe place to get support.
Hi,
I'm in a very similar place physically to you, Breast cancer and mastectomy March this year, had a PET scan before starting my chemo, where they found secondary spread in my Spine, hips, and sacrum. On my second round of targeted therapy plus support drugs.
When my oncologist first told me of the spread he gave me a very helpful mantra. "we can't cure diabetes, we can't cure high blood pressure, but we can treat them! This is something we can't cure but we can treat - just the same"!
I visualise a huge spikey fence around each of my tumours created by the drugs they give me.
It helped me, particularly when breaking the news to my 3 kids. It was really good positive language and I find myself repeating it in the small hours when I can't sleep.
The other useful thing he said was "if we did nothing at all I'd probably last 2 years. We're doing lots to keep you well, and I wouldn't be surprised if I'm still treating you in 6 or 7 years". I'm avoiding google research now as the first thing I looked at under secondary bone cancer gave a 6 month life expectancy - that took me to some dark places for a week or two.
I need an oncologist like yours. Mine is verbally inept and just uhms his way through our conversations. He had never given me hope I will live beyond a couple of years. I have secondary breast cancer in the spine, ribs and skull.
Well done you for coming here. Plenty to live for, and still plenty of time for you.
I'm still feeling super positive most of the time, keep seeing stuff about a new drug coming out for secondary cancers after chemo hasn't worked, and there's been spread. New stuff coming out all the time,, and now you know your time might be limited you can make the most of the time you do have. I'm working on doing as much as I can while I'm well enough to do it. Would be worse not knowing and wasting this time.
What drugs are you on?
I'm on Kisquali (targeted therapy) and monthly jab of Denosumab to strengthen my bones, and extra calcium to do the same.
Recently added antihistamine cos my skin is sore from lack of oils in my skin from the drugs.
Hi Gail, thanks for taking the time to message! Have to say it's fab that you have such a positive attitude, it definitely helps. I have to say from when I posted this message I feel in a much betteplace, more positive and not consuming my every thought. About to start cycle 3 and hoping to have a scan soon to be told I'm NED
would be nice wouldn't it? MY back and hip pain has completely gone so fingers crossed its doing the job. When's your daughters wedding? X
Hi MandaPanda what a fabulous oncologist and exactly what we need to hear! I think it is the word incurable that is so scary, my oncologist said the same it's incurable but treatable. I was never told from my primary diagnosis that I was "cured" so I always lived with the fear it would retun and yes it has, but we will treat it again and again if needed. I won't go without a fight too much to live for xx
ellifain47 aww I'm so.sorry to hear this. I think having a good oncologist makes all the difference, I do prefer mine now to my original one. are you not able to change? I was in such a dark place when I was told and even when I posted into this group but now I feel so much better, I have had to research and reach out to people living with this disease and have met up with women who are still loving with it 5/10 years later. I really think it has helped knowing we are not just statistic that despite what you read, people are living with it and well. I'm here if you ever want to chat, I'm happy to send my number or social if easier xx
Hi. Thank you for your message. I am currently on a weekly cycle of chemo, I get Nab-paclitaxel, Atezolizumab and Denosumab for the bones. Unfortunately the latter has started after the horse bolted the stable as the cancer has crumbled the first three vertebrae in my neck so I have the pleasure of being in a permanent neck brace.
The neck brace makes life a lot more difficult and I can't walk too far these days so living life to the fullest is extremely tricky, that along with still having to work as I can't afford not to. My work are amazing though and give me all the time I need when I am feeling crap and have arranged with HR to extend my full paid sick leave.
I have been in a really dark place for a couple of weeks now and I am finding it so hard to shake. It really frustrates me as I am the kind of person who gets bored with myself being down and depressed, but I just can't shake it. I have a wonderful husband and three boys, 13, 16 and 18 and the thought of leaving them totally destroys me whenever I think of it. A couple of friends have suggested counselling but I am very reluctant as I have never felt the need to have counselling. I am just looking for people in a similar situation as although I have a great group of friends and family, they have no idea what I am going through. mentally and physically.
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