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I've actually been on here for about a week now but only just thought to post on this part of the forum. Well my diagnosis is advanced metastatic prostate cancer, the treatment is conservative/palliative so it is not curable and it is life limiting. I was diagnosed in this state in June after admission as an emergency with a psa reading of 5000+. It is currently a decimal, not sure of the exact figure. I could look it up but the hormone treatment has worked well to date. As to how I am about it and everything I thought I would just post a few words of reflection I wrote in October. 

I was lying down after a long immersion in the bath. Such a powerful emollient thing and so integral to all the palliative care I now receive. The pain was minimal and I was really relaxed just looking out of the window at the branches of the great tree swaying in the wind, lit but the sun, the leaves just beginning to turn colour for autumn. This is the nature from which I emerged and of which I know as little as the time I return to it. There is a feeling of continuity with or without consciousness. That must be something but is as mysterious as the day is long. In my mind I had some fond memories. I learnt to live in harmony eventually with life. It is not easy in this world. I am sad but not afraid to leave it. I feel the sadness of my friends who say they will miss me. I cannot ignore that. But it has to happen and I have acclimatised to that and in the depths of my soul there is peace that sees me through the periods of pain. 

  • Hi  

    welcome to the grouo but sorry you have reason to join us here.

    I have spoken over the years about the grief i feel for the life i once had. Living with an incurable cancer changes you both physically and mentally. When I was first told I was incurable, I felt very angry, but I didn't know who with! This made my feelings very difficult to handle, because i had no where to focus this anger. Then came denial. I found it very hard to accept that this was now how my life would be. I think this just made me more angry, and in all honesty, I probably should of had some counselling at this point, but thats denial for you. 

    Then came acceptance. This wasn't easy, and it took several years for me to get here, and I understand that not everyone is as lucky as me to have this time. But with acceptance came peace. Grief never ends, and anger does occasionally still manage to show its face, but the peace i now feel far outweighs that. 

    Reading your post, I believe this is where you are now. You have found acceptance and peace, and what a wonderful place that is. 

    “Try to be a rainbow, in somebody else's cloud” ~ Maya Angelou
    Chelle 

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  • Hi Fliegel,  Like Cĥelle I was very angry for about a year, I felt so cheated,  so many things left to do, see my grandsons grow. But in time I started to except my life situation.  My mood settled and I put my tine in arranging my funeral, all done but I'm still here trying to enjoy my new normal. 

    I'd just like to say this group has helped me over the years since 2019. People on here are very supportive,  we're all in the same boat and we keep paddling and stay afloat as long as possible. Take care, keep posting.

    Moi x

  • Thank you for this. It is such a momentous thing to be told and I will never know why I was ready for it. I have a lot of peace in me and sometimes a lot of pain. I have found a lot of solace in humour. There are two sides to everything in life, ironies and things you can laugh about.

  • Thank you. I had arranged my funeral during a previous health scare 20 years ago when my blood pressure was very high but I gave up smoking, started going to the gym, took my medication etc and pulled out of it. I have made sure everything I have any control over is in place now. This time it is not a scare, it is definite. It is a new normal but what is different is sort of external. In my head I feel much the same as ever.

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    What a cracking post - thank you for sharing it. I know this cancer affects us all in a different way and we have to deal with the mental aspect of the diagnosis in our own way.

    Like you I have Prostate Cancer (although your PSA figure of 5000+ is way ahead of my 182 in the Prostate Cancer Top Trumps) and having been on this journey almost 5 years I am one of those folk who takes an interest in their diagnosis.

    I was originally told I would be on a "curative pathway" and the more I researched into "our" cancer the more I thought - no I am incurable, and when my team finally confirmed the change in my diagnosis a few months ago I was already prepared for this and it came as no surprise.

    Two points in one of your posts above are spot on for me:

    I have a lot of peace in me

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    I have found a lot of solace in humour.

    Yes, I am at peace with my diagnosis and yes my sense of humour is now wicked. With these two thoughts in place I am happy to move forward and face any future challenges head on.

    I wish you well moving forward and again - thanks for your post.

    Kind regards - Brian.

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  • Hi Fliegel, so sorry to read about your incurable cancer, you're in a very empathetic and supportive group but I do wish I'd met you elsewhere. 

    Thank you for posting such an interesting post, your reflection is a message of beauty. I wish you weren't in pain a lot but I can see that you're coming to terms with your diagnosis. Can I suggest that you don't give up, throw in the towel just yet. There's always a chance of hope if you can get enrolled in a trial, there are people on here that have done so and they have been lucky to have an extension of hope. I'm particularly thinking of a lady who, in 2013, was given 9 months and she's still alive and enjoying life today. She's taking a break from the group at the minute and in regular contact with me. 

    Ask your team if they know of any trials that could give you a renewed hope and ask regularly or at least let them know that you'd be up for a trial. 

    My incurable bone marrow cancer was diagnosed in March 2015 and I'm currently on 3 treatments a week, every week that are extending my life although recently my bloods are very poor, but I'm still here. 

    Take care Fliegel and keep in touch with us please. 

    Tvman x

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  • Thank you very much. I would say that beyond a certain point there is no real room for competition. I think your psa was good enough. In terms of scale I am reminded of the words of the IRA "we only have to get lucky once". And so it is with a lot of things in life. I wish you well indeed.

  • I appreciate what you are saying and if something came along I would go for it. This is a never never world of uncertainty and even if I were to assume I was going to die I still don't know exactly when. The key to my happiness is simply that I do not mind the idea of dying. It has nothing to do with giving up or being suicidal. I just don't mind and a lot of the pain just evaporates because of it.

  • Just a note to the authorities here I know the word you picked up on, suicide, and no way am I suicidal. Try reading my words again in toto. I think my attitude may be atypical but it is not negative or despairing, quite the reverse.

  • Hi Fliegel

    I was told of an incurable diagnosis 2 years ago. Luckily it only took me a couple of months to reach acceptance and peace. I sometimes feel a bit envious of friends of similar age (I was 44 when diagnosed with bowel cancer) have all sorts of plans for the future and are physically fit to do things. But most of the time, I am pretty content. I find not having a future quite liberating as I don’t have to worry about the future anymore. I get to live in the present. 

    I think having an incurable diagnosis is the best thing happened to me mentally. It may sounds crazy but I am kind of grateful to have the chance to live my life differently.