Bus fiasco

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Hi everyone

We planned to take a bus from Northborough, a small village just outside Peterborough where my wife and I are staying with my daughter, sil and 3½ year old grandson. So we set off just after an early lunch for the bus stop, a 10 minute walk, me on my little motorised scooter and my wife pushing our grandson in his buggy, all wrapped up for the cold. 

The bus arrived pretty much on time, my wife and grandson got on and waited until the driver put the ramp down for me, but he didn't move. " You can't get on with that" he said. Astonished, I asked him why and he said "no scooters". Well, my scooter is just a chair on wheels and is narrower than my manual wheelchair and it has been approved by TransLink, the only bus and train company in Northern Ireland which I explained to him. I have driven it onto buses in Peterborough many times, it slots neatly into the wheelchair space, as it does on all trains. I've driven it onto tubes in London also. I asked him why and he said unbelievably " Because of the battery!" I told him it's a dry cell battery, accepted by all airlines and when I remove the key, it's isolated which again is accepted by all airlines. 

I then removed the battery and plonked it beside him to show it's a black solid, sealed box with no wires, no cells in sight. I then explained to him that aeroplanes allow it in their hold and he again came out with a cracker of an excuse "This isn't an aeroplane" I told him loudly that be had just given me such a ridiculous response. Then I looked around me and I told him "You know what mate, I can see it's not an aeroplane!" 

By this time I had dismantled the scooter in 4 pieces as I do to put it in my car boot and I told him I was going to carry it on and he told me that I couldn't do that either. So by now my wife and grandson were on the bus, my scooter was in bits, some on the bus, some outside, the bus doors are open and I'm in the doorway so I told him he'd better ring his company because we're not going anywhere until he does and I wanted him to send a photo of my chair. I also apologised to the other passengers for a second time.

So he rang the company after he took a photo and he spoke to a lady on the other end who I could faintly hear. He asked her if motor scooters were allowed and she said no. I asked him to send the photo which he did but refused to phone again so off we got, really because I didn't want to hold the passengers back. I shouted about disability discrimination a couple of times as we alighted.

My wife was ready to go back to our daughter's but I said there was another bus in 10 minutes, we'll try our luck. So the next bus came and the driver looked concerned but I explained that it's approved for another bus company and as soon as he saw the approved sticker he said that was fine with him and he put the ramp down and we all got on, no problem. He was a lovely bloke and understood that some scooters are fine and some are so big it's impossible for them to travel down the bus. 

Before we returned, I phoned the bus company and spoke to the lady that the driver had spoken to and she asked me to hold on, she was going to put me through to the manager. I explained who I was and he apologised so much and said that once he saw the photo, he knew straightaway that the driver should have allowed me to board, on the scooter. 

When our bus home arrived at the bus station, the doors opened and the driver never batted an eyelid, lowered the ramp and we boarded, no problem. 

I'm going to ring the manager soon and suggest that his company does what TransLink at home does, they individually review each scooter and give allowed scooters the sticker of approval. 

I'm also deliberating if I should highlight the situation with the aid of the local newspaper, what do you think? Any other suggestions?

Tvman x

  • , wow that was bad.

    I would raise that with the local news or so. There will be or have been for sure other people like you. And some of them may not very vocal or just afraid to speak! 

    In my mind i can see a lonely person staying there in the cold with no way they are able to go somewhere!!

    Pet

  • Hi Pet

    Thanks for your thoughts, I always think about someone less able. I do make complaints mostly, but this time I am going to phone Anthony, the manager and ask if he has spoken to the offending driver that he doesn't do that again only because he was full of apologies and told me that if anyone said no on my return journey, tell them to contact Anthony in the office. He also asked me when I was heading back and I could only say in the next hour. I'd guess he contacted the three or four possible drivers because as I said, the driver never batted an eyelid when he stopped.

    I'll also advise Anthony to issue approval stickers to relevant scooters that he has checked. The guy in TransLink at home came out to my house to check out my scooter before he gave me an approval sticker.

    Take care Pet

    Tvman x

    Love life and family.
  • FormerMember
    FormerMember in reply to tvman

    Hi

    That sounds a horrible experience. Well done though. I hope you managed to have a nice time out with your grandson despite the stupid, pig headed driver 

    xxx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Morning  

    Sorry you had such an awful experience.

    It sounds like the driver's manner had as much to do with it as his lack of knowledge. It highlights the need for additional staff training, and I'd ask for written assurance that this will happen. It's not acceptable to abandon people on the pavement!

    I hope it didn't spoil your day out with your grandson.

    xx

  • Hi 

    Firstly I have to say it's good to see you posting again but please only if you feel up to it, I really don't know how you do it. When i feel ill I don't want to look near my phone.

    We had a great day out. Today we're on our way to a working farm, Wimpole Home Farm. It's cold but dry.

    Tvman xx

    Love life and family.
  • Hi Tinalay

    Thanks for your concern. You're quite right, training is required, to say that it's because of the battery is ridiculous. The problem is that some motor scooters are very big and can't fit into the bay on the bus so some companies or ignorant drivers operate a blanket ban.

    At home they look at each scooter individually and issue an Approved sticker. I couldn't contact the guy who apologised profusely because he wasn't in the office, then he was on leave on Thursday and Friday. I'll contact him on Monday and suggest he implements an approval strategy. If he doesn't, then I will contact the local newspaper or tv because I'm going to be back here again and I'll want to go by bus again.

    I never said to him about my cancer but I sure will use the incurable cancer card if he's not compliant otherwise others who depend on motorised scooters because they haven't the strength or ability to propel themselves. I've done something to my rotator cuff muscle in my left shoulder so I find it difficult also so I rely on n my scooter more and more.

    I'll keep you posted, Tinalay

    Take care

    Tvman xx

    Love life and family.
  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Dear

    im so sorry to hear you had to go through this experience, I feel the company have failed to provide the correct level of training to this person although that does not excuse his attitude which is entirely his own responsibility.  I would at least try to get the rules ratified as other wise it will just be a lottery every time someone with a scooter leaves the house. I recently got something changed at my local hospital by raising a complaint in a logical and measured way so it is possible to get results this way.