Hi everyone,
I had an ileostomy reversal in May this year and the one thing I could have used at the time was a list of tips and tricks to get everything back working again as quickly as possible. I really didn't want to suffer for 6 months and wanted to get to the 'new normal' fast.
My op was a resection to remove cancer leaving just 4-5 cm of rectum left so i was expecting the worse. if this sounds like you then read on - this might be useful to you.
I'm now six weeks out and have to say that everything is just tickety boo! (and has been for the last 2 weeks) pretty fast eh? it's getting better every week now. I'm also cancer free.
So here's my round up of what I found worked for me and more importantly why it worked for me (i think)
1) Following the op they wanted me to pass a fart before they would let me home - if you bowel passes some wind then it means it's doing something and will start working. I would not have wanted to leave hospital without that fart happening because you could have been straight back in pretty quickly should your bowel be blocked. As Prince Harry and the american bint said their vows my first fart appeared. it was tiny and hardly registered on the richter scale, but it was the start of something great.
2) When you get home, take it easy - you may be going to the loo straight away or you may be like me and take a couple of days - don't rush it and don't worry because when it starts you will treasure those times when it didn't.
3) When it starts and you are going several times an hour, count the number of times - your stoma nurse will ask you. also note the consistency of the output for any questions they may have. Buy baby wipes (lots of, 60p a pack at sainsburys) and use them every time last off. Finally before you go back to your living room, stick a wedgie there because the chances are there will be several times you won't make it to the loo. It's a bit like the first time you got really drunk, but in reverse.
4) To begin with all we want to happen is for the bowel to get working again. it's been like a hibernating grizzly bear - when you start to wake it up it most certainly will complain and lash out at you. when you go you will get muscle cramps in your tummy - just let it happen - these can be pretty severe and will make you tired. but don't worry - all we want to happen is for the bowel to wake up and get used to actually being awake. An important step I found here was to not 'push' as we were used to in the past - don't squeeze your tummy muscles - just let your body push it out on it's own. sit there for at least 15 minutes and let it fall.
5) DO NOT stop eating food - it's very tempting to say "i'll never eat again" but doing this will prolong your suffering. your bowel has to learn who is the master - if you stop eating you allow it to go back to sleep - a bit like using the snooze button on your alarm clock.
6) For the first 7 -10 days, eat easily passable foods only - stuff that just slides through the gut. mashed potato, yoghurt, white rice pudding, potato waffles and cheese, marshmallows, porridge, ready brek etc. - remember all we want is for the bowel to start working and get used to being awake.
Emotionally this will be a hard time for you - you may wish you could have the bag back, you will regret the decision to reverse - DON'T - because life is sweeter as a dyson club member (bagless) Keep your spirits up and take no visitors. all they do is talk about your cancer anyway and you want to avoid people there if it's the time for your bowel attack saying "yeah, but are you REALLY ok?"
7) For the first 2-3 weeks you will have days where you do nothing but go to the loo. you will get breaks for a few hours in between so get some sleep then. you WILL be up in the middle of the night. what I did was to go downstairs and wait until I had not passed for half an hour and then would go back to bed. damn thing always wanted to start at 4am for me! you will also get plenty of days where nothing happens - enjoy them in the garden but never be more than 20 yards from a loo.
8) When you go to the loo and before you finish and wipe - just stand up, sit down, lean forward and touch the floor then stand up again, swing your torso from side to side - what we are trying to do here is get the body to shove out some more before we go and collapse in front of the TV for a bit. In this stage my theory is that the bowel wants to completely empty. When it's completely empty the grumpy bear can hit the snooze button and nap again and that's when you get your clear days.
9) After 7-10 days of this (it does actually go faster than it sounds) start introducing fibre - a brown roll, some museli or weetabix maybe - this is the time to get the bowel to firm up and it needs 2 things to do it - first some fibre and then to slow itself down. you might be scared at this point of blocking yourself but you wont. so for a few days introduce more and more fibre until your diet has lots of it. at this point you will still be going to the loo a lot but you'll notice it turns to a 'sludge' consistency and is harder to pass. Trips to the loo might be like 20 minutes at a time. You will be tempted to start pushing it out now - but don't, just sit there and let it push itself.
10) When it's 'sludge' (and if advised by your nurse) start taking loperamide - i used to wait until i'd been about five times and then just take one (with some food like a biscuit or 3) - if you go five more times take another. for now just do it like this - not every day. even now you will be having bad days and nothing days.
11) a point will come where you start passing something resembling proper stools. this is the point to start loperamide every day regardless of bowel movement (again confirm with stoma nurse) - just one a day with any other meds you have straight after eating breakfast. you will start to get more regular at this point. The reason for this is that your bowel is shorter - in my case 10 inches. it needs to be slower so that it can absorb the water in your poo and create proper stools. you will still have several trips to the loo - maybe 5 times but then it stops until tomorrow. It's like you have what 'normal' people have for a poo - but in five bits. this is because you have a smaller rectum and your body can't hold as much before it warns you.
this is the 'new normal' for you and to me it almost feels like my old routine just with a few extra loo visits. Normally for me when i start going I know that i'll be going four or five times in the next two hours and then i'll be free for the day.
12) i've put this low on the list but really it should have been much higher. do pelvic floor exercises from at least a month before your reversal op. do them several times a day until you feel like you could use your anus as a bottle opener. instead of counting sheep when going to bed, count clenches. this will pay you dividends down the line because after the op you just won't feel like doing them.
13) avoid alcohol completely until you are at the final stage - then just have a beer, miss a day and then another beer - slowly you will get back to being able to have a tipple again. I'd avoid wine at this point though and def no spirits. Alcohol speeds up the bowel again so just don't do it till this point. I'm guessing that a heavy session will result in a bad day the next but i've not been there yet.
And that's my tips and tricks to dealing with the grizzly bear. I hope they help you too. You should always consult with your stoma nurse or a professional with regards to taking the loperamide but my guess is that they will give you the same advice.
Again, I really hope this helps you - you're welcome!.
Hi Bell, I do come on here but only when someone adds to any of my posts
I'm very happy you are getting a reversal - all will be well, just don't lose hope in the first few weeks and follow my guidance.
I'm sorry to hear you have a lung met - that must be worrying.
I went to see the surgeon for a follow up last week - i asked if i was in remission or 'clear' he categorically said 'clear' so i'm happy about that.
Did have a blood test though to check for markers in the blood which is going to be every 6 months - also a CT csan to check for mets in April next year
so maybe not as 'clear' cut as i thought - little worries surfacing again as we slip into winter...
Anyway, I truly hope that all goes well for you - please do let me know and feel free to private message me if you need help or a shoulder to cry on after the reversal. I'll add you as a friend
Onwards and upwards!
Bump
What a great post and I'm very grateful to you for providing such detailed information.
I am on the waiting list for a reversal. I am still undecided as to actually having it done as I am filled with trepidation as to the outcome which is totally unlike me. I couldn't wait for the original surgery to get the cancer ripped out.
Unfortunately from day 1 my process appears to have been blighted. My original diagnosis by my GP was IBS and not rectal cancer. When I had the surgery I had a blockage a couple of days after and then the complete opposite. I spent an awful month in hospital before I was discharged. I was readmitted to hospital on two occasions (blood clots on the lungs and then hypotension) during my adjunctive chemo treatment and my output has been all over the place since the operation. I take 4 loperamide daily to try and have some form of consistency but it is still variable. My output can go from fluid to what I consider 'normal'.
My Low Anterior Resection was carried out in April 2017 and I have a temporary loop ileostomy which I get on well with and don't really have any issues with it. I do now have a hernia where the stoma is located and it is huge protruding like half a football from my midriff!
I have had two meetings with the surgeon to allay my fears and on each occasion I come out reassured but shortly afterward the doubt sets in again. Its just that I have had 5 years of ill health (severe bleed on the brain in 2013 and then the cancer) and at the moment I am living my life normally again so really am concerned as to making the wrong decision.
The main issue with not having the reversal is that they say they will not be able to do a colonoscopy to monitor the return of the cancer or polyps so I am in a bit of a catch 22 situation. If it were not for this I probably would not have the reversal and just live with the bag.
Apologies for the long post but just wanted to explain why I am so grateful for your post.
Hi Martin,
just a suggestion on the loose stuff - try taking one 30mg of codeine a day - this isnt for pain but codeine reduces the mucus made by the large bowel and slows down the production. you soon get used to one a day and you might be able to reduce the loperamide this way.
it's really fast too - if you have a case of the runs then one extra codeine will generally stop mine within about 40 minutes
obviously this isnt medical advice, just telling you what works for me.
all the best whatever you decide with your reversal etc
Hi Soultrader,
Many thanks for your reply and suggestion I will certainly give it a try. As a result of your post and by Karen62 on a different thread I have come to the conclusion that with the right attitude this is doable and Im going to go ahead with the reversal.
Once again many thanks
Martin
Hi natasha
Thanks for the tips. I have just had a stoma reversal for an ileostomy. I am also a coeliac and I can tell you that tesco gave a great range of GF beer in their FREEFROM aisle that includes San Miguel Peroni and English ales and IPAs amongst others.
The bigger the tesco the bigger the range.
Cheers
Peter
Just read your colostomy blog. Wonderful advice. I had my pre open yesterday for a reversal. Hopefully not too long to wait. I had the ileiostomy in February, 2919, following an emergency admission to Salford Royal. Surgeon removed 150cm of small intestine. It was not caused by cancer, but I already have prostate cancer which I have had all the treatment for. Feeling very upbeat at the moment even though I have had to go to hospital twice for a magnesium boost, probably caused by the ileostomy. Keep up the good work.
Stoma nurses at Wigan have been fantastic and given plenty of support as has my surgeon.
Regards, Peter.
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