Wont be helped

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Been to visit the mother in law today with the children. Was worrying and upsetting.

The problem is with her pain meds. she is supposed to get a dose at 1pm at 3pm it still hadn't been given. I said 'I'll go ask about it shall I?' ' No, no' she relies 'don't talk to any of the staff.'

I'm her primary carer and she refuses to let me talk to the medical staff at all. They wont talk to us without her permission and she wont let us talk to them at all. She has no quarms about complaining about them and how they treat her but refuses to voice her problems.

We had the same problem here. One day I overheard her bad mouthing me to the Macmillan nurse then she announced she wanted to go into residential care. When I insisted that she tell me why it turned out that she had wanted more help and support and for me to do more for her. that was not a problem as far as I was concerned. I had only been waiting for her to tell me what she wanted. Knowing her to be fiercly independant and with her having told me not to mollycoddle her I was waiting for her to say when she needed help. I was not expecting her to fly into the frightful rage about being unwanted and unloved because that is far from being the case. We managed to resolve the issue but only because I demanded that she talk openly with me.

I don't know how to proceed from here. I need to know certain things about her condition and treatment to stand a chance at keeping her happy and comfortable when she does come home and to know what problems to look out for. It's making my husband angry because he feels that she isn't letting him be of help to her and then gets cross with him for not helping enough. We really have our hands tied and I hate the way this is making hubby feel. It's leaving him feeling angry with his mum for not allowing him to know whats happening except the complaints which she wont allow him to address. Angry with the staff over their failure to get his mums pain meds to her on time and so so sad that she wont allow him to help.

I'm torn between anger and sympathy for the staff. Anger because they clearly aren't ensuring her pain is well managed and sympathy because she just isn't telling them everything they need to know and is probably really horrible to them as well.

I may sound unsympathetic towards my mother in law at the moment and I do know she is in an awful and very confusing situation. I can just see the pain she is causing hubby and the unnecessary pain she is going through because she insists on so much secrecy. She likes to think of herself as savvy and streetwise but I fear it is actually paranoia and fear. She seems to honestly believe that no one cares and that everyone wants her to just give up and die. That really isn't the case all we want is for her to be as happy and comfortable as she can be and to get as much quality time with hubby and the children as possible. We don't want her suffering and feeling resentful when there is no need. She should know all this, we've told her frequently but it seems to go in one ear and out the other.

This visit to the hospital far from reassuring me about her has left me with more fears and concerns over how things will be when she comes home again.

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  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Shall i be blunt, well i will be but just a little.I think as your mother in laws future

    carer you can indeed have a word with

    the medical staff about her condition, why

    she isn,t getting her pain relief on time

    etc. Thy dont have to tell her you have asked these questions, after all once she

    leaves hospital care she is going to be

    yours and your hubby's responsibility so

    it is only right that you have full knowledge

    of whats going on about treatment and such.If it where me i would be upfront

    and ask your mother inlaw if she is happy

    to stay with you and your hubby, that you

    understand that she feels as thou her

    independence is being taken out of her

    hands BUT you will both discuss any

    decision to be made with her first, and if

    anything is bothering or upsetting each one of you ,then its best to talk about it

    before it gets out of hand and causes resentment. If she wont discuss the issues you have put to her then im very

    afraid your family life is going to be hell,

    i know this from experience, it can cause

    a rift between you and your hubby and

    you are going to be a very sad household

    Your mother in law seems very angry at

    the moment, and from what you have been saying i dont think her attitude is

    because of her illness, i think you know

    what i am saying. If you cant come to some sort of truce then you and hubby will have to rethink her options, and in the

    long run it might be better all round if she

    went into residential care, I know this

    sounds hard, but i also think you may

    have been thinking along these lines as

    well. I loved my mother to bits, and it

    takes a lot to get me angry and upset.

    but i had my mother living with me for

    a while and she nearly drove me mad,

    i learnt things about her selfish side that

    astonished me.And i think this side of us

    all seems to come out as we get old.

    It may be because we are thinking about

    our mortality, and old age can be really

    scary, and believe me i am not immune

    to this, i see that side of myself coming

    thru everyday, and it isn,t easy to control.

    We all need to learn to give and take,wise

    old fashioned words i know, but it does make life easier in the long run,and on

    top of that old age does make us feel as

    if we have the right to get away with

    anything , and No i dont agree with that.

    So my dear you have got to be firm but

    fair, after all you wont ever please every

    one. I have gone on a bit, but at the same time i hope i have been of some

    help.

    With Love Lucylee. xxx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Thanks for your response Lucy.

    You are right the attitude is not a result of her illness. She is pretty much the way she ever was but with the added problem of being more scared than she has ever been before. I've left a message with her MacMillan nurse asking her to come over to discuss all this, see if she can act as in intermediary and help MIL accept the necessity of letting us know things. the secrecy seems to come and go. She has often asked me to accompany her to medical appointments as she knows I have a scientific background and am better able to understand it all. At other times she has shut us out as she seems to be at the moment.

    We are too scared to consider the residential care option as she has frequently talked about ending it all and taking sister in law (who has very severe learning disabilities and mental health issues) with her and we want to be able to keep an eye on that and make sure she doesn't to anything daft. It would be more damaging to the relationship with hubby if he started thinking he could have prevented something like that if only she had been home with us. He at least understands fully how difficult she can make things when she chooses so he understands when I get upset and frustrated with her and we can talk it through which is great. He also knows from long experience how good she is at emotional blackmail. I think we will just have to help each other through this as best we can.

    When she mentioned residential care the first time there was a little part of me rejoicing inside and working out how soon I could go back to work but I knew it couldn't be that way. Apart from anything else I knew that wasn't what she really wanted. For the first time in weeks she sat downstairs all afternoon as if waiting to be talked around. She sat and smiled to herself once I had talked her around.

    Thankfully her mood had lightened somewhat by the time hubby went for evening visiting hours. He didn't push asking medical stuff but he said she was more optimistic and open than she had been all week.

    To be honest it was great to hear from you and find that other people have had a similar problem. It's awful feeling so angry at the very person you both love and have to care for. It feels wrong to be venting frustration about someone who's in such a bleak situation but I'd be heading toward crazy town if I couldn't let it out. I need to hold it together for everyone who is depending on me at the moment MIL included.

    Thanks again for your response I think I've rambled on a bit too but once it starts I can't seem to stop these days.

    Love Hayley

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Hi Hayley,i sounded hard in my last reply

    to you, but believe me the times i have

    heard "im going to end it all" even my

    hubby has said that in a moment of

    anger, and to be honest when i was a

    young women i remember saying it as

    well when i wanted to get my own way.

    It is emotional blackmail ,and as we all

    know it works most of the time. But i do

    understand how difficult it is for you,

    after all its your hubby's mother, and it

    must be hard for him knowing his mother

    can play on everyone's emotions. She is

    so obversely frightened of whats in front of her, and in that way i do feel very sorry for her. But wouldn,t it be great if she

    stood back took a good look at herself

    and the way she is treating you, it would

    make life for her so much happier if she

    could try to be nicer to the people who

    are in a way making a big change in there lives to accommodate her. All you

    can do is try your best, bite your tongue

    but at the sametime stand up for yourself.

    Wish you all the luck, and im here when

    you feel like pulling your hair out.lol

    With Love LUCYLEE. XXXXX