Consultant appointment

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On coming off the steriods the headache started to come back, not as intense as before, also David feels like he is floating around. He is able to take himself to the toilet still. But feels very tired and lost his appetiate.

We had an outpatient appointment with the team that offered the radiotherapy, but they skirted around the whole issue of exactly what we needed to know. WHY? I have decided that they don't really listen.

Before David had radiotheraphy we asked "Would the treatment get rid of the tumour" the answer was "yes" we clarified that we were looking at "curative treatment".

When asked "are the headaches a side effect of the radiotheraphy" the consultant just wiggled in her chair and skirted around how David was feeling. We also asked if they would be doing another MRI as this had been suggested during David's radiotheraphy, but they said in his case it wasn't worth while.

David asked "what are the chances of getting well enough to return to work" and the consultant said that he should take one step at a time and work upto it. He proberbly wouldn't be able to return to what he was doing but could perhaps see about doing something else. We took this to mean that David could have years left. She wanted to see David's walking and had walked with us to the lift to leave.

We came home and sat and discussed what had been said, and I felt that we didn't really have any answers and were no further forward.

Also when speaking to friends and relatives they asked questions which I wasn't sure of the answers, and hadn't thought about at the consultation. So I rang the hospital and spoke to the consultant, who said she didn't really like to discuss time over the phone, then said she didn't like to discuss it at all.

So in other words, she prefers to leave patients feeling that they will get better and live for years, than tell them straight that they could have just a matter of months left!

She also said that most patients relatives ask to speak seperatly in the corridor, where upon this is discussed. - Surely this can't be right. The patient has a right to know. Also hearing it from a consultant is so much better than from a relative.

She also said that once the cancer has started to spread elsewhere the treatment is pallative, rarely do patients live longer than a year!

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  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Hi Sue

    I'm so sorry to hear about what David and you are going through. I have been following your blogs.

    It looks like most Oncologists will not give a time line any longer. They just don't know.

    My husband has stage 4 bowel cancer with 25 metastasized tumours in his lungs, and 2 new nearby lymph nodes affected. His Oncologist told him that he would start feeling ill in 6 months - and that was 2 1/2 years ago - and he's still feeling "well". His tumours are very slow growing, and not blocking any airways and  that is miraculous. Most Oncologists just don't know.

    There are many people on this site that say that they are not dying of cancer - but they are living with it.

    It is very frustrating for all concerned - the uncertainty, the feeling that your lives have been thrown off the tracks. I found that this site and the wonderful people here have "virtually" saved my sanity - (pun intended).

    Please keep posting and know that we are here for you.

    Sending you & David big Hugs!!!

    Mo    xxxxx

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    That appals me.  You have a right to the information, and to have your questions answered.  It's completely unprofessional to discuss prognosis with relatives in a corridor - without privacy.  Do you have a Macmillan nurse - can you ask him or her to find out the answers and let you know?  Also, precisely why is an MRI 'not 'worthwhile'?  You always have the option of a second opinion - that can be arranged very quickly on the NHS.  In fairness to the consultant, many doctors do not like giving information about how much time is left, simply because they are so often wrong - someone given months can live for several years, someone given years can go after a few months or even weeks.  I'm sorry you're going through it.  I wish you strength to face whatever is ahead.

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Thank you for your comments.

    I appreciate that it is hard for the consultants to give time lines, and that any given are purely indicative as no-one knows exactly when.

    But they have dealt with many cases with people in similier situations and could say that in cases similier to yours the average life expectancy is whatever.

    It just infuriated me that during the consultation they were still talking as if David could improve when this simply isn't the case, also that they didn't want to talk about life expectancy at all and that they usually deal with this in a corridor, rather than in the room with the patient.

    We have been referred for pallative care, but this was just last Wednesday (18 May) and so haven't had our call to arrange the assessment and meet the nurse yet.

    I find writing how I feel helpful, and as Mo says knowing that we are not the only ones going through this, and that there are others out there with similier stories is quite comforting.