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Hi all, diagnosed last Friday with gleeson 7 3+4

Don't have the t figures, the note to the gp just says diagnosed with prostate cancer gleeson 7.

I wasn't really asked anything, just AS see you in 3 months.

Will I get the full grading letter ? 

I am reading the NICE guidelines which seems to show a big percentage of AS go on to have treatment,  but includes CPG 3 as well as CPG2.

Also the symptoms and issues  seem to catch up on AS to people that have had treatment.

At 52 if im going to end up needing treatment,  wouldn't I be better having it now whilst fit and healthy ?

Would my outcome be helped by starting relatively young ?

I'm really confused, have another meeting on the 25th after my request.

I wanted to know how many cores were positive etc and where they were, but will this have any effect on my decision.

Finding I really hard at the min

  • You said:

    A) RIGHT ANTERIOR

    DIAGNOSIS: Benign, focal granulomatous inflammation is noted

    B) RIGHT POSTERIOR MEDIAL

    Adenocarcinoma

    DIAGNOSIS:

    NUMBER OF CORES INVOLVED: 2 out of 4

    GLEASON SCORE: 3+3=6

    PERCENTAGE OF CANCER IN ALL CORES: 30%

    GREATEST PERCENTAGE OF CANCER IN ONE CORE: 70%

    GREATEST LENGTH CANCER IN ONE CORE: 5mm in 9mm core (continuous)

    C) RIGHT POSTERIOR LATERAL

    DIAGNOSIS: Adenocarcinoma

    OF CORES INVOLVED: 3 out of 3

    GLEASON SCORE: 3+3=6

    PERCENTAGE OF CANCER IN ALL CORES: 30%

    GREATEST PERCENTAGE OF CANCER IN ONE CORE: 35%

    GREATEST LENGTH OF CANCER IN ONE CORE: 6mm in 15mm core (continuous)

    D) LEFT ANTERIOR

    DIAGNOSIS: Adenocarcinoma

    NUMBER OF CORES INVOLVED: 1 out of3

    GLEASON SCORE: 3 +4= 7.(<5% pattern 4)

    PERCENTAGE OF CANCER IN ALL CORES: 5%

    GREATEST PERCENTAGE OF CANCER IN ONE CORE: 20%

    GREATEST LENGTH OF CANCER IN ONE CORE: 3mm in 15mm.core (continuous)

    E) LEFT POSTERIOR MEDIAL

    DIAGNOSIS:

    Adenocarcinoma

    NUMBER OF CORES INVOLVED: 2 out of 3

    GLEASON SCORE: 3+4= 7 (<5% pattern 4)

    PERCENTAGE OF CANCER IN ALL CORES: 5%

    GREATEST PERCENTAGE OF CANCER IN ONE CORE: 10%

    GREATEST LENGTH OF CANCER IN ONE CORE: 1.5mm in 12mm core (continuous)

    F)LEFT POSTERIOR LATERAL

    DIAGNOSIS: High grade PIN.One.core shows a small focus of granulomatous inflammation

    SUMMARY

    TOTAL CORES INVOLVED: 8 out of 19

    anterior, left posterior medial.

    SITES INVOLVED: Right posterior medial,right posterior lateral,

    OVERALL GLEASON SCORE: 3 + 4 = 7 (less than 5% pattern 4)

    GREATEST INVOLVED CORE: 70% (right posterior medial)

    GREATEST LENGTH OF CANCER IN ONE CORE: 6mm in 15mm core (continuous) (right posterior lateral)

    ChatGPT said:

    Based on the biopsy report you’ve provided, here is a detailed interpretation:

    Clipboard Summary of Findings

    Total Biopsy Cores Taken: 19

    Cores Positive for Cancer: 8

    Overall Gleason Score: 3+4=7, with <5% pattern 4

    Highest Involvement in One Core: 70% (Right Posterior Medial)

    Longest Cancer Length in One Core: 6mm (Right Posterior Lateral)

    Detailed Analysis by Site

    A) Right Anterior

    Diagnosis: Benign with granulomatous inflammation

    No cancer detected

    B) Right Posterior Medial

    Cancer: Adenocarcinoma

    2 out of 4 cores involved

    Gleason Score: 3+3=6

    Cancer Involvement:

    30% overall, 70% in one core

    Max Length: 5mm (in a 9mm core)

    C) Right Posterior Lateral

    Cancer: Adenocarcinoma

    3 out of 3 cores involved

    Gleason Score: 3+3=6

    Cancer Involvement:

    30% overall, 35% in one core

    Max Length: 6mm (in a 15mm core)

    (This is the longest cancer length found)

    D) Left Anterior

    Cancer: Adenocarcinoma

    1 out of 3 cores involved

    Gleason Score: 3+4=7 (less than 5% pattern 4)

    Cancer Involvement:

    5% overall, 20% in one core

    Length: 3mm (in a 15mm core)

    E) Left Posterior Medial

    Cancer: Adenocarcinoma

    2 out of 3 cores involved

    Gleason Score: 3+4=7 (less than 5% pattern 4)

    Cancer Involvement:

    5% overall, 10% in one core

    Length: 1.5mm (in a 12mm core)

    F) Left Posterior Lateral

    Diagnosis: High-grade PIN (Prostatic Intraepithelial Neoplasia)

    Also: Granulomatous inflammation

    No invasive cancer found

  • That’s not an aggressive cancer - phew!  Looks eminently curable.  AW

  • Good news , guess the question is when Grinning, what do you think in terms of focal given them results ? 

    Only thing I seem to to flag is the values 

    Positive cores: 8/19 (~42%) (Borderline/moderate volume)

    Max cancer in core: Up to 70% (Moderate focal burden) 

    Increasing if the area with the PIN developed positive cores.

    Feeling better today, just having more information helps me immensely