Hi - I had a RIG tube put in on Friday and the cramping post operation was pretty bad for about 6 hours. Had to stay in hospital until sat eve. Tried to go to work today on just paracetamol/ ibuprofen every 4 hours but still not able to stand completely upright, pain when sitting down/ standing up and very sore if i haven't eaten for a while - stomach cramps and it sucks the rig tube back in a bit - probably only a few mm, then it pops back out. My upper abdomen looks distended, as if i were pregnant yet no redness around wound site, no temperature rise or signs of infection or RIG leakage. It is also flushing normally. Is this normal? All the websites i've looked at suggest minimal pain for just a few hours. no one mentions any abdominal swelling.
Has anyone else experienced pain from a RIG and if so how long does it last? I wish i didn't have it done now, i felt obliged to do it as i didn't want to be seen a 'non-compliant' as the dietitian referred to people who didn't consent. They made it seem like such a walk in the park!
2 weeks today until chemoradiotherapy starts :-(
Pleased you had pain relief. Hope you feel better soon. I found it worse if I was standing or walking. Rest really helped. All the best.
Yes Carrie i was lucky with my P.E.G and have never had any trouble what so ever with it , it was i bit uncomfortable waiting for it to settle down yet i had no pain and still dont after nine years . I sometimes find people over cleaning the area around the P.E.G ,making it sore . I dont clean around my site unless is leaked a bit . Agreed on the laxative front as it can be very uncomfortable if not used as i have found out ! Take care .
Chris .x
Hi josie, I wonder if you can help with tips of how you coped with the spasms? My husband had a rig fitted about 8 weeks ago, and over the last ten days has had bad hiccups which are now really spasms which, like you, stop him breathing when they come. He has them almost constantly with hardly any breaks. He doesn’t have pain from the rig though. Hope to hear from you, Thanks Tricia
I didn't have that problem but just a thought, is he putting the food in to fast, it can take a while and from memory if it goes in to fast it can get uncomfortable.
Hi,
my husband has had his rig since August he doesn't get hiccups as his diaphragm was damaged during his first round of treatment. He does get gurgly stomach occasionally at night that moves the tube and is uncomfortable enough to wake him he finds that an extra bottle ( food) is required to settle it. The other times were with a particular flavour of food noticeably strawberry which gave him painful stomach and diorreah. He is very careful not to get air in with his food so injecting slowly and as he uses cocodamol knocking out the bubbles before he injects it in his rig. It still can be painful in certain positions he hates driving or being a passenger in my car as he finds the seats difficult and getting in and out puts strain on his muscles.
puddle fish, just another thought, he hasn't got the PEG to tight has he? the only time I had pain or it was uncomfortable was when it was to tight.
Hi Tricia,
The timescale of this is different from what I experienced, but there are definitely similarities so I will go from those.
All I was given in hospital to help with the cramps was Buscopan, which you can buy over the counter so you don't have to wait for doctor or hospital visits to get some. It did kind of help, though in my case only for about 45 minutes and then it wore off again. Buscopan is designed to alleviate muscle spasms for things like IBS, so it is the closest that they could come to what I was describing. Hiccups are also muscle spasms, of the diaphragm muscle this time, so it might do the trick.
The fact that this has started after 8 weeks means that it is different to mine, which kicked off immediately after the operation, and which took about 3 days to die down fully. Even then, it left me feeling very battered because the muscles had been doing things that they really weren't used to doing.
Another thing that I experienced, which might be worth exploring, turned out to be related to acid reflux. Piecing this together involved quite a long detective story which has been documented in some of my other posts, but in a nutshell it goes as follows.
As we go through radiotherapy, the composition and amount of saliva entering the stomach becomes different, and this causes an imbalance in the acidity of the stomach. For some people (quite a lot of radiotherapy patients), this then leads to acid reflux which may be the burning sort, where you can feel the acid coming up the oesophagus, or what they describe as 'silent', where you can't feel it in the tube but you experience other symptoms like sore throat and hoarseness as the acid burns the vocal chords.
This acid reflux can, in a very small number of people, go on to cause oesophageal spasm, which is where the muscles at the junction between the oesophagus and the top of the stomach go into spasm. The pain level has been described as being on a par with heart attacks, and from my own experience I can attest to that. All of this information is available on the NHS website, just not in the cancer section, so the health professionals can be directed to that if they are uncertain.
There is a very simple solution to oesophageal spasm, which is to take proton pump inhibitors like Omeprazole or Lansoprazole. Again, this is one of those rarities which is seen so infrequently that many doctors have never come across it, or if they do then they mis-identify it. My team sent me for scans and even an endoscopy to try and figure out what they were seeing, because they simply didn't know what it was.
Good luck, and I hope that you have a happy and healthy New Year!
Josie
Thank you everyone for your replies, very kind of you. My husband does take omeprazole daily, plus Buscopan , also another anti spasm and lorezopam when needed. None seem to fix it, when he gets a respite it can come when he hasn’t had any of these. I’ve geard that Baclofen can help so going to ask the doctor about that. I’ll post if we do get a solution. Thanks and good luck everyone!
Just thought I’d post an update on what actually stopped my husbands spasms/hiccups, (in case anyone else needs help in the future). He was prescribed with Chlorpromazine which worked after a couple of days. So he is now spasm free thankfully. Good luck to all.
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