Tumeric Study

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Christian Wilde, author of Miracle Stem Cell Heart Repair, called me today on the phone. I first heard him a couple of years ago on the radio talking about adult stem cells curing over 70 diseases and what it could do specifically for patients who have suffered heart attacks, etc. Anyway, I was so fascinated by his interview (little did I know I would become intimately involved with adult stem cells!) that I bought both of his books and read them cover to cover. When Dave made medical history at Little Rock with his Hyperbaric Oxygen treatments and subsequent stem cell collection, I sent Mr. Wilde an email telling him what occurred. He immediately responded and validated our results with his own research and validated my proactive activity to help Dave overcome his disease. Today he called for a couple of reasons. First he wanted to know how Dave was doing now. He also wanted to send to me the latest research on Tumeric (curcumin) by Dr. Bharat Aggarwal from MD Anderson (in the USA). It was such a timely phone call... There has been much written recently about MM patients taking this to suppress their disease and the research regarding this "spice" in treating cancers. I was looking into it a lot recently on and off trying to decipher if we should include it in Dave's treatment as a complimentary therapy. There are obvious considerations when doing this since they have found Green Tea inhibits Velcade (a common chemo drug for MM). He and I talked about this point and so the research papers he would be sending me will be very helpful on that when I speak to Dave's doctor in the fall when we are there. I will feel armed with some data. Anyway, the timing was amazing. He also is working on doing another show with Dr. Aggarwal on Coast to Coast AM and I will look forward to catching it. He also asked if he could refer a friend recently diagnosed with MM in the hopes I could offer him some guidance and information on his disease. If you don't know about Christian Wilde, he was once a songwriter for some very famous musical groups in the 50's and 60's. He became interested in this subject quite by accident and has embarked on an all consuming quest to put into layman's terms, new innovative medical treatments for all sorts of deadly diseases and conditions. His work is always backed up by the latest medical research and doctors are very willing to allow him to interview them. He is a GEM! Ok, so now I have to get back to my mundane day of laundry and sweeping the floor! hahaha Here is the powerpoint slide discussing his findings... it has broader reaches than Multiple Myeloma so I urge you to take a look and investigate further... As always, you should discuss with your doctor, but at least you will have something you can present to them for further inquiry. http://myeloma.org/pdfs/turmeric.pdf Lori

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  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Very interested in this, had read else where about the possible use or tumeric. Having probs convincing my mum and also have read some conflicting reports. Please keep me updated

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Hi Gary,

    I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter.  Essentially Dr. Bharat Aggarwal (you can google him and find more data that might be easier to digest), an Oncology researcher from MD Anderson in Texas, has been researching for several years the value of Tumeric/curcumin in combatting cancer and enhancing the chemo treatment protocols.  I, like you, have been too "involved" to really look heavily into it further and still haven't, but I will be over the coming weeks.  Anyway, I have heard about it a lot in dealing with Multiple Myeloma.  I have hesitated because I don't want to add stuff to Dave's "treatment" that may interfere with its benefits and he is in remission, etc., etc.  Having said that, there are several Myeloma bloggers who have reached the end of their progress and have been using tumeric and have stabilized their disease and some have in fact gotten myeloma to retreat.  What is interesting in this particular presentation is that it has now been shown that it helps with other cancers as well, besides myeloma.  This is a powerpoint presentation that he made at a conference.  If you want more of the "science" I suggest google his name and/or tumeric/cancer etc.  I like you, don't have time to break it all down right at the moment.  Sorry I couldn't be of more help to you on that.

    Christian Wilde validated me in that he complimented my measured and proactive approach to learning and treating my husband's multiple myeloma, and he too had read some research and results from both stem cell transplants for multiple myeloma as well as hyperbaric oxygen treatments as a complimentary therapy when trying to multiply stem cells.  If you wanted information on that you can look at my past blog.  My husband made medical history while in Little Rock, Arkansas last November on his stem cell collection.

    Best,

    Lori

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Lori,

    My daughter's taken a turn for the worse and so I've not been able to do the PowerPoint presentation any justice. Sorry. So please summarise the 2-3 key claims for Turmeric, and let me know what the (scientific, statistically sound, repeatable, and peer-reviewed) findings are.

    It would be fantastic if we had a breakthrough here, but in my (very brief) scan of this I found it difficult to "separate the wheat from the chaff" - i.e. where are the facts as opposed to the anecdotes.

    Thanks so much for you understanding, and please pass all my best wishes to Dave.

    Gary

    PS. I love the word "validated" - please let me know how he did this in your case. Thanks.

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    "One step at a time"

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Gary, Here are some more links.  But I'm not terribly adept at reading scientific studies enough to pass along my interpretation in a way that I would be comfortable.

    So for yourself:

    www.curehunter.com/.../authorSummary-Aggarwal,%20Bharat%20B.do

    www.indolink.com/displayArticleS.php

    www2.mdanderson.org/.../9-07-2.html

    health.usnews.com/.../hb050711a.htm

    You will notice some of this data is from 2005.  I have been aware that he has been studying this for quite sometime.  Its not new.  Its just a bit new for me since I've only been dealing with this cancer for a year and have been quite overwhelmed, as we often are, with ALL the stuff out there.  So I had made a mental note to look into more down the road and then the lovely phone call I got today from Mr. Wilde spurred me on to look into more thoroughly.  Since Dave is in remission, I'm not in crisis mode on it, but plan to incorporate it AFTER we complete our next stem cell transplant.  I have however, run across it multiple times and places on multiple myeloma blogs of patients who are using it and present their labs which are indeed impressive.

    Lori

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    First let me apologise for your earlier response appearing before my original in the running order - ALL my fault. I submitted mine and, while you were kindly replying, I noticed a typo in mine and started to correct it. You replied to mine, and then I submitted my correction and (somehow) it appeared after yours. Sorry.

    The difficulty I have is that both your experience and the details in his presentation COULD be down to coincidence.  What's more, my brief scan of your additional links (thanks for these) are also largely anecdotal. I've not had time to go onto the 2005 paper but, if there were substantive findings from this then I would hope that in the past four years that these would now be public.

    I don't have a problem with anecdotes. Hey - if folk are getting better then that's great!

    BUT, and it's a really big BUT, I wouldn't want to go saying "look at this, look at this" unless I felt sure there was something worth looking at.

    There is a risk that folk could read your blog, the presentation, and the links and mistake them for evidence. And, as they stand, I'm not sure they are,

    There are others who are not convinced of the case for Tumeric. For example, here are two other responses:

    www.cancerhelp.org.uk/.../default.asp

    www.bmj.com/.../292

    So, if I were to make a claim in public, I'd feel that the onus would be on me to substantiate it - I don't feel it's right to say "Here's a great claim..." and, when people challenge it, to expect them to seek out the evidence. If I made the claim, then it’s up to me to substantiate it, not to expect others to disprove it!

    If you don't feel able to do this, then please give this chap (who's researching for a cost-to-coast radio show) a call, and ask him to join the site and provide us with EVIDENCE. If he’s sure of his facts then I’m sure he’ll jump at the opportunity.

    Personally I hope he's onto something but, right now, it's up to him to prove it - not up to us to disprove it.

    Thanks so much.

    Your friend,

    Gary

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    "One step at a time"