Toxic Positivity - Part Two

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Toxic Positivity - Part Two

Last year, we published a blog on “toxic positivity”, including guidance on navigating conversations about cancer. The blog resonated with numerous Community members, prompting some to share their experiences dealing with toxic positivity in the comments. We wanted to share some of those insightful comments with you here, as well as some helpful links if you have been struggling with how to navigate conversations with family and friends. 

If you haven’t come across the concept of “toxic positivity” before, you can read the original blog by clicking here.

Dealing with toxic positivity

“Wow, I’m so happy to read this is a thing. I try really hard to be positive and occasionally feel angry or upset. I can’t believe the number of times I’ve been told I’ll be okay because I’m so positive, or they know someone who was given 2 years to live and is still here 18 years later!”

“I dislike battle, warrior, brave language and being told to stay positive. It’s so difficult to stay upbeat all the time and I think it’s ok to have days when you don’t cope as well. I like to think that I have stayed realistic.”

“I am guilty of trying to soften the blow, so some of the toxic positivity comes from me. I find it difficult to say how I feel both physically and mentally and my husband tells me I'm too upbeat. Of course, he sees all my highs and lows. Keeping a balance is difficult but I am trying.”

“Personally I do believe that a positive attitude and mindset is a factor in dealing with cancer, but the sweeping “you'll be fine, you're so positive” platitudes can be so very frustrating, especially for me if they landed when I was having a bad day or had some disappointing news.” 

“What a brilliant article! I've never heard the phrase toxic positivity but how true it is. Many people have said to me, "I know someone with cancer who is still here years later". This is not helpful - everyone is different. Also, I never talk about battles - it's not a war. I want a peaceful and happy time doing what I want to do when I can and being kind to myself when I can't do things.”

“I was guilty of this recently, despite having a cancer diagnosis myself. My younger sister responded really badly saying, ‘Well I guess when I'm dying, it will be my fault for not being positive enough, ouch.”

Being honest with those you trust

Expressing our true feelings can be tough at times. Choosing people we trust to be honest and vulnerable with, can make a significant difference.

A member commented about their frustration with people being overly positive.

“I am also struggling with the positivity of those around me. It’s probably my fault for putting a brave face on, following my diagnosis. I wanted to reassure my friends and family that I was okay, but now I find that every time I try to express any worries or fear, I get shut down. I’m fed up with being told how amazing I am!” 

Two days later, the member returned to share the news about opening up to their sister.

“After reading the article, and realising it was a thing, I finally did find the courage to, very gently, tell my sister that relentless positivity was making it very difficult for me to express my fears and worries. She completely understood, so hopefully I will be able to be more honest going forward.”

Another member simply requested that their friends and family stop using certain words with them.

“I have banned anyone from telling me I am 'brave'.”

Talking about your cancer 

It can be tricky talking to people about your cancer diagnosis and cancer treatment. How people react when you tell them about the cancer may depend on different things. Many people have no experience talking to or supporting someone with cancer.

Follow the links below for more information and practical tips:

Who can you talk to?

Think about who you usually talk with about important issues or difficult problems. This is probably the best person to talk to. This may be your partner, your closest friend, your eldest child, another family member, a work colleague, a counsellor or a religious leader. It may be somebody who is going through or has been through a similar experience.

Sometimes it is easier to talk with someone you do not know. You may feel less pressure to act a certain way. You may also feel safe knowing that they will not share the conversation with your friends or family.

If you feel this way, you could:

Have you experienced toxic positivity?

Your voice matters in our Community. If you've faced challenges navigating positivity, please feel free to share your experience in the comments below.

Anonymous
  • Hi,

    A very very important topic.

    For me, positivity about one's own situation is one thing. It can be a way of coping and godoness knows we need all the help we can get in that department. So not being a therapist, if I met someone living with cancer who was very upbeat,.. What am I saying? WHEN I have met people living with cancer who were very upbeat, I have said nothing and wished them well. When we don't live with someone, we don't know if they are still upbeat when they are on their own / with their mum, sister / friends etc.
    When positivity is about someone else, it is something altogether different because it can be a complete denial of the feelings of the person who does live with cancer (I call it "being it"). Either by ignoring them completely (not asking how they feel) or by trying to give some kind of advice (horrid, horrid, horrid - all we can do is share our experience and those who have none really could learn a lot by listening).

    The main issues when trying to ram positivity down the throat of someone who is trying to express angst / despair / anxiety / worry / fear / grief / uncertainty / doubt / fedupness etc etc are

    1 it is shutting them down, stopping them from expressing what they need to say / offload / share.

    2 it ensures the person doing the ramming does not have to hear the pain / sorrow / anxiety

    3 it reinforces that whole awful message (not sure where it comes from) that being positive (as well as fit, active, etc etc) is very good for cancer outcomes. So what about all those who don't make it? It seems to imply they have not been positive (enough). Horrid, horrid, horrid. My dear aunt and several dear friends among them: fine people, dearly beloved and very resilient and dignified when facing terrible circumstances.

    Unfortunately for me given my diagnosis, one of my famliy members simply cannot contemplate anything remotely "realistic", much less "frightening". I can now hardly speak with them, especially when I have received bad news or am struggling with my ongoing situation. It's quite sad, but I have to protect myself.

    Shortly after I was first diagnosed, I met a lovely woman at Maggie's. She had finished her chemo a year previously and gave me some great tips for my second cycle. We saw each other a couple of times on other occasions. One such time, she said "There's something anyone in this building will tell you for nothing: one of the toughest things about a cancer diagnosis is how it affects our relationship with other people." That woman was very wise indeed. Well, she was talking from experience, of course. Between the toxic positivity, the pity, the fear, those who pretend nothing has happened, those who were not that close but suddenly take a keen interest, those who "bury us alive", and those who appear every few months, as if to check we're still there... Horrid (thrice).

    Thankfully, there are the nearest and dearest, who "know the deal", who offer presence, silence, a listening ear, a walk, a piece of cake, a glass of something, a cup of tea, a kind look, a long hug, who cry and laugh with us, and still confide in their own problems, and understand about appointments and test results and fatigue and stick around because, well, they loved us before and still do. Bless them all because it is not easy AT ALL.

    Sorry, I've rambled on.
    Good night

  • Hi  

    I’m so sorry to hear about the loss of your husband. Do you have support around you where you are? Please know that Macmillan and the Online Community are here for you

    Im not sure if you are aware, but we have a Bereaved partners and spouses forum which you might find helpful to join. If you feel comfortable doing so, you could post to this forum, where I am sure other members will reach out with support. We see every day how helpful it can be to connect with others who share similar experiences.

    There’s some help with using the site available here if you need it. You will be able to find step-by-step instructions on these help pages, including video tutorials.

    Alongside accessing peer-to-peer from our Community forums, I want to highlight other points of contact where you may be able to receive support.

    If you think accessing some specialist bereavement support would be helpful, there lots of useful information in the main Macmillan website. It includes details of other specialist organisations trained to support people with their grief such as Cruse bereavement care.

    Cruse have a free confidential helpline where you can pick up the phone and speak to their team of trained bereavement volunteers on their helpline by calling 0808 808 1677, 7 days a week.

    I’d also like to let you know about At A Loss, which is a national UK bereavement charity. You can use their search feature to find local bereavement services close to you. They have a webpage on looking after yourself when you have been bereaved which might have some helpful guidance. This webpage includes details about Griefchat, which is their free online chat with a trained grief counsellor. It’s available Monday – Friday, 9am – 9pm, and may be helpful during this time. 

    I hope the above information is helpful and that you are able to find support as you deal with the loss of your husband.

    Take care,
    Dylan

  • Hi  

    Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and experiences. You have captured how positivity can be a personal coping tool but, when misused, can silence others.

    It’s hard when others impose positivity and leaves someone feeling like they don't have the space to share their pain or grief. I'm sorry that it has affected your relationship with a family member. Protecting your own emotional well-being in these situations is so important, even though it’s sad and challenging to navigate.

    The wisdom you shared from the woman at Maggie’s is so profound. It's good to hear that your  “nearest and dearest” have been there for you to offer real, genuine support and love. 

    Thank you again for taking the time to share with such honesty. I know your words will resonate with so many people who have felt silenced or misunderstood.

    Best wishes,
    Dylan

  • This article really helped me realise how I was feeling and it also made me think about how to explain it to others without solely focussing on toxic positivity. Given my change background routes I think about the change curve. Some days I am positive, some days I am in denial, some days I am angry. The difference between the change curve at work though is that the role of a leader is to help someone move through the curve but that is the opposite of what we need from people when we are dealing with cancer. Instead of trying to move us through the change curve, e.g. trying to be upbeat when we are feeling low or angry, we just need empathy. If we are low, sit with us and let us talk. If we are angry let us rant. Don’t share stories with us about how someone they know had it worse than us, or how they survived it or worse, if they past away (cheers to the person btw who did that with me…what were you thinking???).
    What I probably won’t share though is that if you think I look like I want to punch you in the face because you have said, “well there are people much worse off than you”, that’s your cue that it is the wrong thing to say….Don’t say that again. And no I am never going to actually punch anyone in the face but my expression may make it feel like I have verbally done that! And yes, I know it’s unfair because that is probably exactly what I have said about myself when trying to soften the blow with others (that there are people much worse off than me) but that’s not an invitation to keep quoting that back at me as it diminishes my day to day reality of what I am dealing with. 

  • Hi  

    Thank you for commenting on the blog. I'm glad you found it helpful.

    Your point about the change curve is a really insightful perspective, especially the contrast with how support works in the context of cancer. 

    I'm sorry you had to deal with toxic positivity like that. It's very natural to feel that level of frustration when having to deal with those forms of comments.

    Thank you for sharing some of your story and being honest about your experiences and feelings. 

    Take care,
    Dylan