I have started, so I will continue ...

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I have started, so I will continue ...

From my perspective, there is only one great basic certainty about oesophageal cancer: food is life.  If my husband can't eat, he will starve.  

For fellow carers, and those who have eating problems due to cancer, I hope your experience of dieticians has been better than ours.  I seem to remember the only advice we were given was aimed at all cancer patients who were going through chemo, and that advice was only given when we asked to see a dietician.  I don't know, call me naive, but I would have thought a dietician had valuable expertise for someone who has oesophageal cancer?  Apparently not.  And there are some hightly questionable things that are recommended in the standard advice for cancer patients - but that is another story.  

So what can you do for someone who is constantly losing weight, who is so hungry that even the brussel sprouts and pigs' trotters in some Sunday newspaper supplement look appetising, but who can hardly swallow anything?

This takes us back to the chicken broth: get your pens ready:

You need:

 

  • The biggest saucepan you can find 
  • The most expensive, well-reared, happy chicken.  Don't skimp on quality   - the better the bird, the more nutrition there will be.  
  • 2 leeks
  • 2 onions
  • 2 carrots
  • A few sticks of celery
  • A couple of bay leaves and/or mixed herbs
  • 1 red pepper
  • Any other old root vegetable/ bit of fresh cabbage or both
  • A few whole peppercorns.
  • A little salt - you can add more later.

 

Method:

Take the breasts of the chicken off - you need to eat something!

Very roughly chop the vegetables - you won't be eating them so being tidy is not an issue.  Pop the chicken into the pot, roughly chopped vegetables, herbs and peppercorns.   Cover with water - you should need several pints.  I add a very little olive oil - it gives texture.  Pop in a generous pinch of salt - you can add later. 

Simmer (not boil - put in the oven if that is best for you) until the chicken is falling off the bone.   If you find it tasteless, add a vegetable stock cube.   If it is too strong, add a little more water.  If the vegetables aren't cooked, keep cooking!

Or ask the patient to taste - you can then season/dilute accordingly.

Strain off the broth - throw out the bones and old vegetables.

For those who can eat solids, a good idea is to shred (tiny pieces)  one of the chicken breasts very finely and then pop it into some of the broth with a little basmati rice/finely chopped whatever.  Simmer for about fifteen minutes. 

In the meantime, cook the remaining chicken breast for yourself ( and no, I am not telling you how to do that). 

There should be enough basic broth/stock for you to simply re-heat or add to for several meals.  Obviously, your must store it in the fridge and take care that you always boil stock/broth for at least five minutes when you are re-heating it - kill all the bacteria.  

Phew! Such a simple thing, but such a long recipe.  Yes, to you cooks out there, this is just a basic chicken stock.  But how many make real stock these days? (How many care ...?) 

Dear, oh, dear.  That all took more explaining than I thought.  If anybody got this far, bravo.  I barely managed it myself.  

Back to the 'teach-yourself' Italian.  I am hoping to get to the future tense ... perhaps tomorrow ...

 

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  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Thank you for posting this recipe Buzzie - My grandmother used to make chicken soup, but she made sure to put it through the "Deflavourizer Machine" first before serving it.  LOL - This sounds a lot better!!!

    Hugs, Mo

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    We were lucky and had a good dietician who helped us quite a lot.  My other half Bob had lung cancer and had to have radical radiotherapy and one of the areas they treated was his front chest area.  The treatment itself was ok but after two weeks of it he was in agony and he described it as feeling like glass inside him - his words "its so painful I cant swallow my own spit".  During this time, as you say, he had to eat!  Sometimes the shakes the hospital gave him made him sick which was double agony as it hurt going down and hurt coming up.  Like you I eventually researched the food thing for him and made my own food up.  The dietician had told us we had to get a maximum of 2000 calories in him a day (easier said than done as you know) but eventually I found my miracle ingredient to be peanut butter as it is packed with calories and you can use it in soups and sauces (if you arent allergic).  Greek yoghurt and honey was good too.  Jelly and rice pudding also.  And eventually I used the dieticians shakes as a base for my own smoothies by adding a banana and other fruits blended up.    I kept all my recipes and if you need any new ones I can dig them out and jot them up here for you.  Good luck with this - I know how awful it is to watch someone "shrink" infront of you it makes you feel so helpless.  One other thing I did was I made a roast dinner and put it all in the blender and blended it to a soup!  Sounds odd but it works.    

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    Thank you Minerva for all that.  Some great ideas there.  I hope that Bob is fully recovered.  Sounds like you did a wonderful job.  I am going to start a food recipe forum/discussion on the oesophageal cancer bit .. when I have worked it out.  So ideas there would be very welcome.

    Hi Maureen - hope you are both ok.  

    Best wishes to all - a beautiful day here and the dogs are looking hopeful.  

  • FormerMember
    FormerMember

    When you are ready drop me an email and I will get out my info as I have stacks of recipes and things I did for Bob's eating - would be glad to send you.

  • Hi Buzzie

    I replied to your post on the Carers and Caring discussion in the oesophageal group, as to how to set up the new discussion for your recipes there, here’s the link:

    community.macmillan.org.uk/.../274025.aspx

    You have some good ideas there Minerva.

    Best wishes

    Crystal xx