Hello to the night shift.

Hi and  and anyone else seeing the night out.

I thought I would join the night shift tonight as I'm struggling to get to sleep.  It's been very erratic recently.  I usually get about three good hours then anything after that is in one to two hour bursts.  Unfortunately it leaves me feeling exhausted the next day so I don't get much done.

I hope that you are both doing as well as you can at the moment.  We are a lot more relaxed here now my MIL has gone back to my wife's sisters where she was before getting trapped by the lockdown.  At least I can crash on the settee now during the day.

All the best,

Gragon  xx

  • Well good morning fellow night hawk! I'm sorry to hear you are struggling with sleep, Daloni, Tvman, people from other time zones and I are usually around at this time! It's a horrible feeling during the day when you haven't had enough shut eye at night, I've just gotten used to it. I am also one of those who can't sleep on a chair or couch, good for you if you can. Why couldn't you lie on the couch when your mil was there, it's your house, do you just feel uncomfortable when she is there?

    Do you know what is keeping you awake? I hope it is not pain! How have you been during lockdown, have you been for some fresh air or just stayed in the garden? If you have one! I hope by this time you are back to sleeping soundly as it makes it a long night when you dont sleep! I hope this doesnt happen to you often! How are you doing, are you on any treatment or like me stopped the meds?

    Love Annette x

    Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery, Today is a Gift!!!
  • Hi Annette,

    The problem when my MIL was here was that there were 4 of us in  a two bedroom house.  My wife was working online in our bedroom, my son was online at school in our front room where he was sleeping.  Unless i told the MIL that she had to go to her bedroom i would have been trying to go to sleep in the room that she was sitting in, not very comfortable.

    Thankfully it is not pain keeping me awake.  When I am on my medication it just disrupts my sleep.  I have an intermittent treatment as part of a trial and have been back on them for 6 weeks after a six month treatment break so it seems to be a bit worse this time.  I have also been struggling with anxiety for some months now.  It is not related just to the cancer although I'm sure that plays a part.  I had seen my GP for a referral long before the shut down but they can take some time to come through and then of course we went into lockdown and demand for counselling went through the roof.  I have been told nothing is available in this area now.  Funnily enough most of my anxiety is when dealing with others which the lock down actually made easier for a while.  Unfortunately tonight when I lie down my head starts whizzing and none of my usual tricks are slowing it down.

    I can and often do sleep in a chair and am going to have another drinking chocolate and try again in a minute.  I sometimes sleep in the chair to avoid disturbing my wife.

    I've got my Asda delivery arriving later this morning.  It's a bit hard to estimate how much room it will take up when it is a list rather than in a trolley and I wasn't allowed to buy anything for the freezer this week as I have managed to totally fill it to the brim.  We have been trying to eat meals which use as much as possible from the freezer to create a bit of space.

    All the best,

    Gragon xx

  • Good morning

    I see Annette has just posted, a message flashed on my screen.

    I feel for you, I'm a 1 to 2 hour sleeper these days, my sleep is disturbed violently by arthritic pains as well as nerve pain caused by my back condition, spinal stenosis, and I know the hazy daytime struggles only too well. When I was working, before the cancer and spinal stenosis condition, I sometimes felt similar during my 35 years night working if I didn't get enough daytime sleep. 

    I'm glad you have the settee back. My FIL used to commandeer our settee when he visited our house. I also fondly recall when we stayed with my outlaws during the 9 or so months we lived with them whilst our house was being built. On my return to their house after work, I used to leave the morning paper that I had bought on the kitchen table. As I was preparing my breakfast I was frequently dismayed when I turned round and there he was, engrossed in my paper. Not only that but as I ate, my time was interjected by my FIL reading snippets of items in the morning paper. In addition, after breakfast when I went to bed and usually read the paper, my FIL still had it. Got to say though that he was a good man, always helped people including me many times and gave me (and my wife) the land on the farm to build a house, a very decent man.

    I started this at 3am but unfortunately couldn't stay awake Gragon which is why I have said at the beginning that Annette has just posted! I tried, and I tried also at 4am and 6am too.

    Take care mate and stay safe.


    Love life and family.
  • Hi

    Sorry to hear that you are having trouble sleeping because of the medication but I hope it helps long term. 

    Annette was querying why your MIL was commandeering the settee and I was expecting your answer to be the same as mine ie my FIL was so relaxed at my house because we had a good relationship that he stretched out. My MIL though didn't take my stance, she shouted at him to move and let me sit down and like any other sensible man, he obliged lol :) 

    Take care mate and stay safe


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  • Hi Gragon

    Me again! Sorry, meant to say that my wife has our freezer full too. It never ceases to empty, sometimes I get a bit annoyed because you can't get 1 thing more into it so we decide to get nothing more frozen food. We get a little space but then the offers get bought and it fills again.

    Our Sainsburys delivery comes today. In Northern Ireland the list of extremely vulnerable people still hasn't gone out to the supermarkets because we don't have the same system of collecting names of extremely vulnerable people but "we're working on it" they say. Disgraceful but typical.

    I turned to Sainsburys helpline about 3 months ago and after 40 minutes a very pleasant young girl answered and listened to my predicament. She took my details and a couple of days later, an email came from Sainsburys saying that they would add me to their list. 

    A couple of weeks after that, Sainsburys said that they were guaranteeing all extremely vulnerable customers a delivery once a week. So thank you very much Sainsburys, and I've already told their customer service.

    My wife searched for a chest freezer at a good price and we had it delivered yesterday and we have it in the garage. So now we have a lot more room. Photo below. Take care mate and stay safe.


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  • Hi,

    I also got delivery of a new freezer this week to help with the storage. We are getting fresh fish delivered from Cornwall which is lovely and can store extra bread and ice cream.

    i and shielding and have had letters but apart from Asda none of the supermarkets contacted me. I rang Tesco’s and now get a Tesco slot as well but Waitrose weren’t helpful when I rang them 


  • Good morning Everyone! Gragon I hope you have enjoyed having your settee all to yourself! tvman & ruthjp good for you getting new freezers! I have an upright freezer (over 6ft high) and love it. Definitely agree you need extra space for the ice cream!
    My sister phoned Wednesday night to say she would pop over Thursday afternoon and have tea in the garden, which is now allowed. I made shortbread but 15minutes after I put it in the oven, I could smell burning! It was meant to be in the oven for 1 hour! It turns out my oven has broken and instead of cutting off at what the temperature had been set for, it just kept heating and heating! So I just made some Crispies Bars as they are a traybake and you don't use an oven! My sister was delighted and said she hadn't had them for agesI our son popped over, assuming I'd be on my own as my husband was working night shift last nght and was asleep. They had some with tea/coffee and what was left, split between them to take home!!

    How did you all manage to get freezers delivered!!!  I looked on the internet earlier for a new cooker and all they can do is deliver the cooker to your doorstep or garage. They are not allowed to install it or come in to take the old one away! Now what good is that!!! I'm not sure when this will change! Probably not until stage 4! So that's me without an oven until then!

    I do hope everyone is sleeping by now! I'm off to do my jigsaws!

    Love Annette x

    Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery, Today is a Gift!!!
  • Morning All

    I have been chuckling here as I read about how we all sleep in one to three hour shifts and all our freezers are overflowing. Same here! 

    It makes me wonder whether the idea of an ideal 8-hour sleep is a myth. I’ve read more than once how a medieval night consisted of a long sleep followed by a break and food followed by a short sleep. Maybe we would feel less stressed about sleep if we accepted that we just have a different sleep pattern. Although ghost would leave unsolved the conundrum that three hours sleep or less a night just isn’t enough.

    I am here and wakeful after having chemo today so I am on steroids again for three days. I’m pleased to report that it was entirely uneventful. 


  • Good morning Daloni, I see you were awake was it around 4ish? I'm wondering because I know the clock on here is slow. Does everyone have blackout curtains for this time of year? The sun starts to rise here 4am and doesn't go down until about 10.15pm. I wonder if we are awake because there is light in the sky so early! Although on saying that, I've not been to sleep yet. I'm so pleased your chemo was uneventful, let's hope it stays that way. Can I ask, are you on steroids all the time or just for the three days after chemo? They don't help one bit when you are trying to sleep! I hope you get another few hours before getting up, I hope I do too!

    I hope everyone else managed a good sleep! are you sleeping better now the house is quieter!!

    Love Annette x

    Yesterday is History, Tomorrow is a Mystery, Today is a Gift!!!
  • Hi Annette 

    yes it was 4ish and yes I went back to sleep again afterwards. So I had three short sleeps last night and I will nap again today. I can sleep anywhere. Including in the middle of a sentence as it turns out. Just ask my neighbour.

    I don’t have blackout curtains in my bedroom but my curtains themselves are quite thick and heavy. I think we naturally are more wakeful in the summer. Ask anyone who’s been up to the north of Sweden and they’ll tell you people sleep very little during the summer in the land of the midnight sun.

    The steroids are just for the three days around the chemotherapy. They do make sleep very difficult. I’ve been on them continuously since April so I know all about it. In fact it’s a treat now just to have them for three days in the weeks I have the chemotherapy. Ok that’s three weeks a month but it’s progress.